Dawn Butler MP: ‘Babies are born without biological sex’

The Shadow Women and Equalities Secretary has claimed that babies are born without a biological sex.

Dawn Butler, MP for Brent Central, was speaking on Good Morning Britain while defending Labour’s position on radical gender ideology.

Science clearly shows babies have the genetic coding for their sex from the moment of conception.


Presenter Richard Madeley accused the Labour Party of shutting down debate about sex and gender, after two leadership candidates backed calls to expel from the party anyone who questions transgender ideology.

Miss Butler was also asked if people are ‘transphobic’ if they believe there is a biological difference between men who say they are women even if they have not had surgery, and true females.

She said: “What we can’t have is transphobia, we can’t have people who are transphobic.”

She added: “If you’re saying that a trans woman isn’t a woman, then there are issues around that. Talking about penises and vaginas doesn’t help the conversation because then you’re saying that a trans woman isn’t a woman.”

Biological differences

When Madeley asked: “When a child is born, they are identified and observed in a particular sex aren’t they?”, Butler interjected: “A child is born without sex, a child is formed without sex in the beginning”.

She concluded by stating the trans activist slogan, “Trans women are women. Trans men are men”, and suggested that those who don’t agree are making trans people unsafe and contributing to hate crime.

UPDATE – In a later interview with homosexual news website Pink News Butler sought to clarify her remarks.

She said: “The thing is, when you are born, you’re told by the doctor, ‘Congratulations, it’s a boy’ or ‘Congratulations, it’s a girl.’ But I was trying to make the point to him that, you know, it’s also not a given. There’s lots of people that identify as non binary.”

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